A. Yes.

Q. You were anticipating trouble and you got back out of the way?

A. Yes, on the sidewalk. Garrett lowered his pistol I think he put it in his holster.

Q. How long did John talk to Rucker before he shot him?

A. Something like two or three minutes.

Q. Did you hear John tell him "Don't do that Rucker"?

A. When he went to back out I saw John shaking his head couldn't understand what he said.

Q. You couldn't see Rucker's hands then when he was cutting his car? Backed about 25 feet.

A. After he got straightened up the shots were fired. When Garrett got there he cut the motor off when he first started to back out.

Q. There were no shots fired until he backed out and got his car straightened up and headed toward the Baptist Church?

A. No.

Q. You were on the sidewalk about 25 feet away, and you didn't have your eyes on his hands?

A. I could see him cutting his car.

Q. Garrett was walking along at the car?

A. Yes they walked.

Q. When he got straightened up Garrett was between you and Rucker?

A. No. I could see Rucker in the car.

Q. What part of Rucker could you see?

A. I saw him sitting in the car from here up.

Q. You didn't have your eyes on his hands?

A. I wasn't just watching his hands.

Q. You don't know whether he reached for his gun or not?